Butan Torch Repair
Repair or clean at your own roofs,
these things can blow up.
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Repair or clean at your own roofs,
these things can blow up.
Hi Dave Smith here. I'm gonna take a look at some torches
and how to clean them or if it's even possibly clean 'em
or if you should waste the time on it.
Today I'm gonna be working on three specific types
of torches, trying to clean them
after they've been plugged up with ba butane.
This is the old style max flame torch.
This is my newer style max flame torch with the sight glass.
And then this is the newest torch that I'm selling.
I call this the SSC 2 0 2 1 1.
Um, it looks very similar to a big shot,
uh, made by blazer,
but uh, it's actually in my mind a
better torch than that torch.
And I'll explain that.
I actually did in one video already,
but I'll show you where we can clean this one.
Uh, also just in case.
So one of the big problems you have
with these small torches is bad butane.
You can get three times, five times, 10 times, eight times.
It doesn't matter. Once in a while you'll get a bad can.
When you're buying butane, you need to see somewhere on it
where it says it's filtered or refined.
Typically that means five times refined.
If it says five times, this is 11 times.
If it's 11 times for years, I suggested
that you not use anything shorter than a five x.
But what I found after a period of time too, is
that I've been been getting bad five X and been bad 11 x.
What I mean by that bad is
that they've got contaminants in 'em to plug your torch.
Most of the time when these small torches go bad,
people just throw 'em away
and say, okay, I don't know what happened.
We've, we've gone from there.
Sometimes it's real obvious problems of what's happened.
They've gotten them overheated and melted 'em.
Let me show you one of those. Oh, here's a good example
in this area here you can see the housing's been all melted
where the flame has been forced back up into there
and burning clear up here.
And that usually happens when you have your torch too close
to whatever your substrate is.
For example, if you're up against the charcoal block,
So for example, this is
about the right distance from the block
where your blue tip just hit your materials.
But when you make noises like that
or get that close, you're causing
yourself all kinds of trouble.
When you do that, that's when you melt
things like this right here.
If you have no desire to sit through the disassembly
of all three torches, here's
where they're located at so you can fast forward.
The first torch we're gonna do today is gonna be one
of the old style max flame torches.
This particular torch is leaking out of the bottom.
There's a valve in here.
If you have a uh, screwdriver, sometimes you can push that
and reseal it.
Maybe there's some junk in it,
didn't fix it, so we'd have to take that out
and replace it or clean it.
In the meantime, I'm gonna show you a a, a classic example
of a bad flame.
This is a little
that's full, full temperature on this particular torch
that usually happens when this little valve plugs up that's
inside there and that's what happens with the bad butane.
I'm gonna turn that off. What we should have been seeing
here is something along this line And that
that's one of the earlier torch
that's working like it should.
That's about right amount of plant.
I'm not gonna bother fixing one of these torches
because I don't use them anymore.
But what I will do is I will point out the areas
that you need to be looking at to see that if you need
to clean one, where you're gonna go from, I'm gonna go ahead
and sim disassemble this completely while it's on camera so
that you can see all the steps to do that.
First thing I'll do is there's two
screws down here in the bottom.
I'm gonna take those two screws out
that's gonna allow the cover to slide off
this CIDs off that cover right here, this valve here.
I'm gonna go ahead and remove that valve.
Now it takes a little screwdriver slot right in there
and when I do, I'm gonna have a lot of leakage.
You should probably drain the torch before you do this
and have a well ventilated area.
Once you do this with the valve that you have,
I really don't recommend that you do this repair.
If you get one of these leaking bad enough
and you strike it, I can see you
blowing yourself up pretty easily.
It looks as though this is one piece,
But you can certainly see the damages done in here.
It just broke off when I did that.
Apparently they melt it together.
So I thought this valve was Serviceable,
but apparently it's not.
If it leaks, you need to have this whole new piece
and replace it as one piece.
Well, you can get these pieces. I have no idea
because I've never seen anybody selling 'em.
You might get 'em back with manufacturer,
but you're looking at a 40 or $50 torch here.
Uh, you might just be better off at that point.
If this valve is leaking, send it back
to whoever you got it from or throw it away.
Okay, so that's that part. So let's get this top part apart.
Service. There is some serviceable stuff in here.
It appears that that was not very serviceable.
Alright, so there's four screws here.
1, 2, 3, 4.
You have the larger screws on the side here.
Once that's on there, then you can flip this off.
It just pulls right off the end as it does.
You can see there's a nice piece of ceramic in there
that the striker goes through a little hole that's in there.
Okay, here's a little bit better.
Look at what we've got cooking here.
The wire is coming out right over here.
That's the same wire that is on here, that is right here.
It has to slide through that piece.
It'll slide through this hole right there.
Okay, so we pulled those pieces off.
Now we're looking at some things here.
If all these little holes
that are in the end here get plugged up,
you're gonna have a difficulty.
Uh, a lot of times what'll happen is people will get this
so hot that they'll actually melt those holes together.
It looks as though right here it's probably happened
'cause you can see there's nothing happening,
there's no holes there at all.
Whereas if you look at one of the newer torches,
it's really this, this, it's really easy to see
that these holes are open and clear
and that's where you're gonna get those little blue lights
of blue flames, which you've got running this one.
You can also see the wire sticking through here
for a chart for sparking.
So we pulled this wire back out of that hole.
It's got some insulation on it here
and now what has to happen is this plate
that we pull these apart have to come off.
So we got all four of the screws out,
it should just pop open here.
So that side came off and now we can see all the mechanism.
This mechanism here is for Higher and lower.
This mechanism here is part of our striker assembly so
that when we push this button here, uh,
unfortunately we have to pull this down.
If you see this, we can pull that down and that unlatched
and that allows us to strike that that direction.
When it does, there's a little hammer in there that hits
and uh, makes the spark go into this wire here.
That wire has the spark come on out the end
and sparks when it transfers over here
and it makes the spark out here.
Alright, so next this stuff has to come out.
When you're going back together, there's a little spring in
there, so you gotta keep your thumb over it, keep
that spring together and get that little piece out.
Set that aside and then this will pull up and off
and then you can take that spring
and I think you gotta wait.
Nope, it was able to unscrew it and then this flops open.
Now the rest of this stuff isn't gonna come apart
until we get the other side off.
So let's go ahead and do that.
That's gonna be these two screws right here.
So we've gotten those two screws out.
Let's take the back case off.
Now we can see a little clearer.
This mechanism here, this little valve was installed in the,
in this system and it pulls up on this lever And that's
what lets the gas from the chamber here back out
through this little nozzle.
So that nozzle is the thing that gets plugged.
So we'll pull this little wire off of here.
I pull this lock back, pull the wire off
and then this will come out.
And then this is the nozzle that is plugged real,
real bad here.
This is the one that usually if you've overheated the torch
will get burned up and you won't be able
to fix it if you haven't overheated it.
This will be nice and shiny
and you'll be able to maybe see those holes.
Let's see if we can widen this up a little bit
and not very well, but there's a bunch
of little bitty holes in here that, uh, get plugged up
and you can soak this in denatured alcohol
or something along that line.
Uh, then take this hose off.
Oh, that's not how you're gonna take it off.
Apparently this was really, really hot.
Usually they'll just pull off And uh, then you can take
and blow clean that off with alcohol, fill it with alcohol,
and then blow back this direction.
And a lot of times, well,
and sometimes you can get them to clean up a little bit.
This torch has a few problems.
It's never gonna be repairable.
I'm not gonna try to put it back together.
Okay, so this is gonna get, okay,
let's come back, back down.
Okay, so this is gonna be assembled exactly in the reverse
way where you just took it apart.
This is gonna go back in.
That hose is gonna go back on there.
The backside's gonna go on.
Then these things are gonna start laying in place.
Uh, actually this will go on last
before we close up this edge up front.
And one of the things that you gotta be really careful
of is this little spring likes to go flying out of places
and it's already disappeared from the pile.
Here it is right here. It goes up inside this
little piece right here.
And it's gonna be a part
of this assembly when it goes back together.
So that's all I'm gonna show with this porch.
But that's what you'd do.
You'd, you'd, you'd uh, take that valve and clean it
and Otherwise high probability is if the ends
of this thing look as bad as this one,
you're gonna be throwing it away anyway.
Alright, That's all I'm
gonna do for that particular torch.
Thanks for watching.
So this torch is our Sightglass torch.
This is the second torch that I've used over the years
or a second different style.
The torch that I've used over the year.
I really like this one a lot better
because it allowed you to fill to a specific spot
and you never have to wonder where you are.
The biggest problem was, and I took 'em out of service and
because I kept getting them back for cleaning
and that was due to the bad butane more than anything.
But I also had a lot of, uh,
leakage when you're filling it 'cause.
And so one of the reasons that I replaced these torches is
that these valves a lot of times were really hard to fill
and you get a lot of spillage when you're
filling 'em, so you're wasting butane.
However, I really love this torch
for another couple of reasons.
And one of those is that it had a cleanable nozzle,
which meant that if you did get bad butane, uh, meaning
that it was dirty, you could still do something with it.
And here this one again, has been overheated real bad.
You can see the, the, the burned area on this storage.
So let's go ahead and take it apart here.
So in order to get the nozzle out, which controls the amount
of butane that goes in, we have to start
by taking these screws off And slide it out.
And now, so once you've taken those two screws out,
you have to be cautious.
But, and note where this plastic tubing is right here
because that when you put this back together, that wire
that's in there has to go inside that tubing so
that it holds it against this piece of wire here.
So once you've got that set aside, then the next thing
that can come apart is way down inside here.
It's pretty straightforward. We don't have to take all
that whole assembly out.
All we gotta do is find our deep socket
that's gonna fit down in there to get to
that valve to clean it.
Alright, so the socket that I'm gonna use here is a
three sixteenths and I'm gonna go in here
and put that in there and take that valve out.
You can see it here on a disassembled torch that
that would go and fit just like that in there on there.
Now it's pretty tight so you gotta put a lot
of pressure towards it,
Meaning That you're gonna push in with the socket
as you take it and start loose.
Now sometimes there's an o-ring in there
that stays on the valve and other times the stays in place.
I'm gonna go ahead and pull that out.
Now remember, you don't have to take it down
to this level to get that valve out.
You don't have to be able to see it,
you just have to be able to get it out of there.
So once we get it out of there, we should be able
to go ahead and take a look at it.
See that three 16 socket doesn't fit really well
so there's probably a metric that fits a little bit longer,
but you gotta have a, a cut down
long socket to get it in there.
So now let's see if we can get some
real close up views here.
Oh, I guess that's pretty close up except
they can't even find it.
It's so close up.
Alright, so if you look here,
you can see this little sve like a fair in there.
You see that little sve like a fair well that gets plugged
and that gets plugged with your contaminants
that are in the uh, butane.
So what I do is I soak that in denatured alcohol.
You could probably soak it in just about anything.
And then I come over here
and I blow through this hole with my air hose
Where I've got it right up against there.
And then, and when I do
that blows the rest of the stuff out.
You might wanna wear some rubber gloves if you're actually
doing denatured alcohol,
but you gotta have some pressure on that.
I don't know if a can of little compressed air like you buy
for cleaning your computer or work there or not.
I would suspect that it probably would if you have that
and you don't have an air compressor.
And the reason I do is
because if you look at this sve, it never has a whole lot
of pressure on it from the other side.
It has a control valve.
So as long as there's a control valve there, it's not,
it's not forcing it into that thing and,
and packing it really badly.
Alright, so that's what goes in there.
So you can see this one did not come out with the O-ring.
So the O-ring stayed in there somewhere, uh,
without that O-ring in there.
You're gonna have uh, a lot of nastiness.
That one's still in there. So it'll be this one here.
See if we can point that o-ring out from
where we can see it with our camera.
Uh, Maybe not,
yes, it's there but it's hard to see.
Um, You might be able to see it
through there if you're looking at it.
If it wasn't for a camera you could see it,
you could probably, I can see it
through the sides when I'm looking down through this way.
Okay, anyway, so then what happens is this would go back in,
you might have to play with it
and put a little bitty tiny bit
of force on it and there I go.
I lost that stinking.
There it is right there in front of me.
Okay, so back in you go
and just kind of play with it
and you'll get past the O-ring.
Once you do, you should feel it
tightened up with your fingers.
Once it tightens up completely with your fingers,
then you'll be able to take the wrench
to it to get the final on it.
Okay, so there it is, it's there
and it's slipping on me a little bit.
So I'm gonna take it and put my wrench on it
and just give it a little bit of a, a tightness
so you don't have to force it a lot.
This the wrench just slipped right then.
Okay, that's all it needs to be just on there.
Okay, so then we would go ahead
and reassemble by taking our, our piece here
very carefully, making sure that it gets into the rubber.
So it's gonna go through this slot right here.
And that rubber's gonna go on Right here.
Uh, come on.
I'm gonna push that out ways and start it first
and I'm gonna slide this back into the system.
Then we're back into with our two little bitty screws.
Now these screws are really easy to strip,
so if you're having to
force 'em, you're doing something wrong.
The other little torch that we just took apart earlier, the,
the jumbo torch, it's a real booger.
Uh, it's really easy to strip 'em and,
and really it's, you can even can break 'em off in there
with not a whole lot of effort.
Okay, so there's that
and then there's our handle back on.
We'll put our screw back on.
Okay, so that's how easy that one is to clean.
Hi Dave Smith here again today we're gonna take apart our
SSC 2 0 2 1 1 torch
and show you uh, the mechanism
for cleaning the screen that's in here.
I really love this torch a lot because of that.
It also has some, a better heat
control here on this side here where this big por keeps us
outside from getting hot.
Uh, these ones here were just the little one in the older
styles where this one's a much bigger one
and it actually has uh, uh, better cooling effects.
So let's get started. Start
with this little screw right here.
A little easier than some of the US 'cause there's only one.
Okay, next we have these two screws in here,
which are a pretty good size, a little bit bigger than that
of the torch so that they're a little, uh, easier to get out
and uh, a little easier to put back in.
What I love about this is the cleaning of it is really,
really quick and uh, it has a lot of really,
really good properties in terms of, of heat ranges.
Now I gotta be careful here
because we've got this wire on here
and that wire, if you look here, is bent over.
We need to unbend it a little bit.
Uh, See if we can see it here.
This wire needs to bend up. Now look how close it is there.
That's pretty important. If you look at my screwdriver,
it's just about the distance from that
to my screwdriver, the width of the blade.
You don't wanna force that out there
'cause you can tear stuff up back inside.
So eventually you'll get that back up in the slot
and you should be able to pull that off.
Here it comes. Now
before I go any farther, I'm gonna remember to take
and straighten that wire out so that I don't have
to fight it when I'm going back together.
Okay, so that's done. Now look at
how this is right out here in the open.
I just love that I do
and it's an o little tiny bit bigger than the other
ones on the other torches.
So let's see, that's a, uh,
looks like a one quarter inch
standard American style socca.
It's a little loose on that, so there's probably a,
a metric that's a little bit better.
Uh, didn't have too much trouble getting that out.
Just loose.
Uh, here it's now the o-ring came off with it
and I'm gonna try blowing this up.
So, uh, so this'll be good.
Now this thing's pretty tiny
so if I can give you an example.
Here's the screw that I took out.
Um, What's going on is we wanna
leave that overing intact.
This nozzle has a tiny hole in the steel plate that goes
below the brass hole here.
So I'm gonna turn that around and we can see inside.
And now there is a slot in there
and that slot in there needs to be fitted with a screwdriver
and that one is too big.
No, maybe not. Yep, that one's in there
and turn around until it gets it.
And then if it's too hard to turn by hand, you may need
to grab it with a wrench
and start turning counter-clockwise.
So very carefully getting it out.
Now here's a a real problem.
This thing is so tiny that if you sneeze
or you don't watch when you get it outta there,
it's not spring loaded or anything.
But if it falls out, I've lost one of these in,
in the first torch I was taking apart
when I was testing the torches to see what I liked
and it disappeared and I never have found it.
So let's see if we got it there
Yet.
So now then you can see here, the very first thing is
there's a little ring here, a little brass ring
that basically goes on last
and then see that little screen underneath it
and then that's nothing there.
Okay? So that means that that's gonna have
to go back together and let's
see if there's anything else in there.
There's a little steel piece in there, I thought.
Yeah, you can see it here in this case that stayed in there.
I'm happy with that. Leave it,
stay in there as long as it's clean.
Otherwise sometimes when you're putting this stuff back in
it cos and and does different things.
So I cleaned this so I'm not gonna clean it again.
So I'm gonna gonna see if I can
just gently drop that in here.
Lemme see if I get this really close to the camera.
We'll actually see it.
That's about a good view as we're gonna get.
But you can see how tiny the holes are,
but at least there's, you can see them
and you can see that there's garbage in there.
Okay, so we're gonna now try to put it back in
and it didn't go.
Now one of the problems I've had
before with this is to get it to sit down flat
because it has to be flat before you put the other piece in.
Now there it just flipped over I think.
Yep, it's laying down in there flat. Now I can see it.
I think that's what I'm seeing. It's definitely not
leaned up against the side.
You can see the threads there. Okay, so that's good.
Now then this little guy can go in
a little bit of mother's magic helper.
My
Little brows ring.
Yeah, it's definitely in there on top of it.
You could tell
that by looking at the threads
and actually the uh,
iPhone camera works pretty good for seeing that little stuff.
Okay, so that's in there now. And this piece goes back in.
I know a lot of you folks out there making jewelry
or have much more delicate hands than I do
and much better tools for looking at this tiny stuff.
Alright, so now just in case it's not in there all the way
down, let's just start real gently going in.
You shouldn't feel it giving a lot of resistance
before it gets way down.
And even then, um, it shouldn't be springy
and it's not, it went all the way down solid.
Okay, so now I'm gonna take it, hang onto to this again.
And it's a solid fit.
It's, there's, once it's down,
it's down, there's no turning it.
Okay, that's in there. Now we're gonna come back onto here.
Do this all by hand.
Don't even take a chance with the wrench until you've uh,
snugged it up manually by hand.
And then, uh, it's a very, very minor amount of tightness,
but it's just, it just, it comes to a solid stop.
That's where you stop.
Remember it's got a little o-ring in there.
There's squishing. So you don't want to take this down to
where it's, it either strips the thread or the other.
So based on what you felt when you pulled it apart,
it's probably just a few inch pounds.
Alright, so now we're gonna come back out a little bit
so I can do this a little bit better.
There it is. There's the hole wire goes through.
It's right next to one of the bolt holes.
Well, it's not as straight apparently as I thought it was
'cause it doesn't wanna fit in the hole very well.
Let's take another slot at it here.
Hole looks a lot bigger but
fighting it for some reason here.
There we go. Had a little bit of a,
a rough edge on the insulation.
Alright, now we gotta keep that thing straight.
Now we gotta go out back into this hole over here.
And so it's talking to me too.
I'm having to actually hold it out here, having
to hold it out here while I feed it in.
And once I finally got close to the inside,
then it should snap over and it did.
Alright, so we'll put those two screws
back in very carefully.
They're pretty big. So if you have any resistance,
you probably got it cross threaded.
Get 'em both started a little bit
before I tighten anything down.
One of the other torches the other day, I had one
that was cocked a little bit
and I cross red it and I broke the head off.
This is another one of those places you don't wanna
overtight, but you want to be firm enough to where you know
that you're not gonna be coming loose inside.
And actually, once you're down that far, you can tight,
you can turn it up pretty good.
Okay, so now that it looks like our last step is gonna be
bending this wire back, well not our last step.
It looks like the next thing we're gonna do is
bend this wire back over.
So we'll see that we can get it bent
back to about where it was.
It was about the width of this screwdriver,
if I remember right from here to there.
Okay, let's give it a shot
a little bit closer.
I could barely see the flame there, so that might mean
that once in a while it's gonna not make it okay.
Come on. There we go.
Okay, so now we're ready for our cover.
Well, that whole little tiny thing, where is it?
Got it on backwards. That doesn't help any,
that makes more sense, don't it?
Okay,
now this is one that has a little bitty tiny screw
and I seem to be really challenged
with my fingers this morning.
All right, that's that. And then our torch is back together.
Okay, we're ready to go now. Let's go ahead and start it up.
All right, that's it for that torch.
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